Side stand switch problems Apr 26, 2007 · That was annoying so set out to fix it, found the clutch switch problem, they had jammed a small piece of metal to force it to engage. Dec 8, 2005 · You have to take the hump cover and look for the connector on the left side of the engine ( where the side stand is ). :ale: Oct 27, 2011 · Side stand switch faulty Jump to Latest 7. All the other threads I've seen all seem to reiterate that the side stand switch can get broken. If your side stand has a lot of side movement then that should probably be addressed. I get stopped and fiddle with the side stand. Aug 2, 2016 · Hey guys, have any of you with a 690 duke bypassed or removed the side stand switch? All the kits for the bypass units are sold out or out of stock. 2K ohm resistor as described in other posts but it did not work. Those of us with sidecar rigs simply remove the switch and join the wires. Jun 12, 2010 · That worked for a few months, then the bike started acting like the kick stand was down even when the switch was completely out of the picture. I have run 2 other Hondas this way for 3 years May 11, 2019 · Pretty sure this is a sidestand switch problem, and have a new switch on order. Unplug it and fuse the two wires together on the hot side. On that I simply made a jumper and bypassed the side stand switch permanently. Mar 3, 2006 · If so then a faulty switch/wiring could cause the engine to cut in and out. I started checking it out, and discovered that the side stand switch was "shorting" out when I would touch it while bike was running. laramie Jan 27, 2024 · A short video on how to delete and remove the side stand switch on a 2003 Triumph Bonneville (applies to other Triumph models). 2. three wires. Oct 13, 2020 · With the side stand the up position you can see the brass bolt/magnet here: In the above picture, notice how the head of the brass bolt/magnet is against a gray color piece. This would have you looking for a plugged in connector with 2 wires connected together. After that I would die when letting clutch out in gear (cause of the busted side stand switch). Some totally remove the switch altogether and simply jump the terminals. Have you gotten the bike wet recently like riding in the rain or a good washing that could have had some water infiltrate the side stand switch? Not sure of the wiring on that bike but if you try disconnecting the side stand switch to see if it helps the situation. I pull the cable loose and cut it off with my pocket knife. Thinking it may be an issue in the switch, I disconected the switch at the plug. chinesemotorcyclepartsonline. Definitely get that switch replaced if you think that's the cause. I could even push on the stand sideways to get the same effect. there is something wrong with the switch itself, either it's dislocated and need re-adjusting or it's U/S and need replacing. Get in the habit of always pulling the clutch lever in when you start a motorcycle & always put the side stand up before putting the bike in Aug 13, 2023 · The side stand safety switch on a motorcycle is designed to send a signal to the motorcycle’s Engine Control Module (ECM). They can give intermittent problems as you describe. instagram. He ended up going through a barbed wire fence and waking up in the hospital. The yellow/black wire should have continuity when the side stand is down and open, or no continuity, when the stand is up. The switch is in the circuit for the fuel pump relay coil, and if the switch is not electrically closed, the fuel pump will not operate. Trying to restart, odd problem seemingly related to side stand switch, or maybe clutch switch? Or is there a switch/sensor in gearbox? If I have side stand down, in neutral, it will no longer start as it normally would. It actually needed to rotate counterclockwise a tiny bit. You'll need to take the left lower fairing off Jan 19, 2005 · A well timed rock kicked up by Mother Nature killed the bike mid climb, narrow track, over grown with trees, just glad it wasn't the M6 between Manchester & Birmingham! The last thing you want is a side stand switch problem 500km from the nearest SSS specialist! Bajo Caracoles to Los Antiguous RUTA 41 ARGETINA Ayacucho, Peru, the SSS gets it! I've buggered around and pretty sure it the side stand switch, I have removed the sprocket cover but no issues under there. Oct 3, 2017 · If its the 2nd option then its not the side stand switch because if faulty that will stop the the starter motor from turning just as the brake levers or kill switches will. How to install a Smartmoto de Jun 29, 2010 · Brad, I can understand the side switch frustration. This is causing an alarm and shutting the bike down if placed into gear. behind here is the connector for the side stand switch. May 10, 2017 · Side Stand Switch Problem Jump to Latest 9. Nov 29, 2010 · Side stand or kickstand safety switches have now been used for a considerable time, and from what I read, cause nothing but trouble across all makes of bikes. With the safety switch I have to start up, ride out, shut off Aug 21, 2008 · Thanks for the reply, @sprouty115. Totally dead. 2nd of today's frustration Dec 2, 2006 · How to disable the side stand, follow the wires from the side stand switch up the LH side of the frame to where it connects to the wiring harness, via a two pin plug, disconnect the plug and make a loop wire with suitably insulated connectors and join the two terminals ( on the harness plug side) this will disable the side stand. May 25, 2019 · the side stand switch is a simple on/off switch to let the system know when the stand is down. -If it does not, then the side stand switch is the problem You can easily bypass the BAS sensor in about 10 minutes without any mods to the bike Feb 10, 2017 · However, the wiring harness that supplies current to the switch also includes a side stand switch relay. Side stand on display. Jun 18, 2004 · If the leads to the side stand switch were disconnected and another set run from the center stand switch, it would allow you to run the engine with the side stand down- probably best to use the parking brake also in case the CVT belt has more grip than it appears when disabled. I was able to bend a coil and then zip-tie it in place for the rest of the trip, but it didn't lock the side stand completely in place as I rode. However, is it possible to bypass the switch in order to use the bike whilst waiting? Three wires to the switch, proximity type, magnet in the sidestand, pink, black and blue wires, I think I have read somewhere that the blue is discarded and 2k resister used Side stand switch was broken and it has the old style switch, could it still be a hall effect solution like newer models? With the broken switch it was solved with a metal piece forcing the clutch switch in: Was trying to restore the function of having to pull clutch when starting in gear so that was removed. Moderator: Moderators. Leave it be after a good sealing of your work. Inside the diode block, there are three connections. Sep 15, 2010 · On a 05' R1200GS, if I try to start the bike with the side stand down, it cranks very slowly. The magnetic switch must be there. split the connector, cut back the wire so you have an inch from the connector. This is the one that needs a ground, and doing so you will hear the relay click!! Find the neutral switch on the rear right side of your engine case. The side stand safety switches are usually a source of problem at some point causing your bike not to fire. the magnet needs to be placed in the lower left corner of the receiver with the long edge parallel to the the edge of the receiver otherwise it can cut out The side stand is the same on all year models, there are 3 side stand lengths, lowered GS, GS STD & Dakar/Sertao Issues with the side stand may show up with age. [/ Hi when i press the starter button nothing happens All the lights and every thing els works with the ignition on Some one just tested the side stand switch they say it works Nov 22, 2007 · The revised instruction addresses the sensitivity of the side stand position switch, which has created operational problems with certain motors. Jul 18, 2023 · The sidestand switch on this model is four wires - the stand down and stand up circuits. Feb 1, 2010 · In view of Kurt's Side Stand Switch / Won't Start gremlin maybe some one can figure out another location in the wiring circuit to meter check that circuit w/o having to get down on the ground to do the test. Mar 30, 2006 · if the switch is still installed then those 2 wires (brown & black) wont be connected and instead will hook to 2 other wires that lead down to the side stand switch. This is with a new battery. Regardless of stand position the ecu thinks the stand is down. 9K views 5 replies 3 participants last post by Easy Rider May 12, 2017 Dec 23, 2008 · It sounds like either a problem with the side stand switch or the harness itself. Jul 8, 2001 · It didn't collapse completely but it was useless to me in my situation. When the stand is down the switch provides a ground to the green/white wire. Thanks guys for any additional info! Feb 29, 2016 · I have a 2017 1090 Adventure r that I want to remove the side stand switch from to avoid being stranded in the middle of bum f@#k nowhere by a stupid switch. No further troubles, yet, but I'm only about 120 miles from that event Oct 18, 2006 · 1. I was able to unbolt the switch and physically move the pin to tell the ecu the stand is up so I could get home. Jan 30, 2007 · You are correct, but if you don't have the side stand safety switch, you get the auto rebound side stand. This robust guard provides ample protection to the vulnerable side stand switch, preventing engine cutoff and potential stranded situations. Now you can put it back on easy and no wires to cut or splice. My solution (temp) is to unplug the four pin connector which is located near the battery box and jump the stand up circuit. I. If it won't crank then it could be a problem with the starter lockout circuit which takes input from the side stand switch, clutch lever switch and neutral indicator switch. If your spring is weak, or the pivot is crusty and hard to move, the spring can't hold the stand up as firmly against the switch, and it could come disconnected while you're riding, even for a split second when you say, hit a bump. Or it just won't start in the first place. When we got on the bike to come home, it would not start. 02 resistor encased in some epoxy I find the price unreasonable. Every bike I've owned will kill the engine if it thinks the side stand is down with the bike in gear. the spring holding the sidestand up is weak and the stand therefore moving downwards when you hit a bump. So the OP says he's read about a number of people "caught out" unable to start the bike due to a failed sidestand switch. Cheers Kiwigeoff:nerd: Aug 4, 2022 · The switch works by the kick stand spring holding the stand up, and holding the switch depressed. Aug 4, 2022 · The switch works by the kick stand spring holding the stand up, and holding the switch depressed. Put the switch out of the way. A better method than just zip tying the switch is to cut the wires and solder them together. Jan 15, 2006 · Once it was warmed up completely, problem seemed to go away. The easy test is to just by-pass the side stand switch to see if your problem goes away. I saw on another forum someone installed a 2. There are only 2 wires and which are connected by a simple switch when the side stand presses the pin inwards. I had the shop hard-wire the under-tank conncetions last week because of the loose bullet connector problem the LeMans seems to have. I have been doing this when I stop for gas or in the garage, then I just take out the key. Jun 30, 2022 · I did not push the stand down which would have caused a disconnect, switch against the stand adjustment bolt to the switch, just bumping the stand would immediately cause a disruption in the electrical flow causing backfiring and motor shutdown. Brown/white to immobiliser relay connector (the relay coil). com/p How to check and replacement the motorcycle side stand switch. Jan 17, 2009 · :violin I know the side stand switch is a safety item but I hate it. So, laying flat next to the bike I see that the ss switch has come all to pieces. That relay should be disabled as it's an electronic device, no longer needed for side stand safety switch operation, that is susceptible to failure. Aug 21, 2008 · One more thought regarding this switch - I just got back from a trip where a low-side spill ripped off my side stand spring and broke the hook off one end. Mine is not broken, but my bike is cutting out. Disconnect the plug above the stand and with the ignition on take your multi-meter and determine which wire has power from the bike. Either strengthen the spring, or generously lube the rotation point of the stand, or do both, or remove the stand and use the center stand (if equipped) instead. Last Edit: Jun 21, 2012, 06. 2016 Thruxton R, track racer kit, Free Spirits X pipe, US Vance and Hines, de-snorkel, diy throttle spacers, heated grips, 17t fr sprocket, quickshifter, TuneECU remap with custom riding modes, tubeless conversion. May 25, 2021 · The only problem with the approach of gluing the magnet to the switch is that a switch failure will still result in you being stuck on the side of the road. First guess: blk to wht Oct 15, 2005 · Stand switch Not got the hang of posting yet! second try: Early pre 2000: 3 wires on stand switch, Brown/violet to a connection point junction, then neutral safety switch,neutral light and diode from starter relay. Feb 23, 2008 · Is their a problem with bypassing the side stand switch by running a ground cable directly to the starter solenoid? My bike wouldn't start It seems to be the side stand switch so I just bypassed it by grounding the starter solenoid directly. Brown wire to clutch switch and battery negative (ground). separate the connector and short the female side with a jumper and tape it to avoid shorting it to engine. Hope below picture will be of some help. Here is a more complete solution: A picture of the finished bypass. Turning over but not firing can be caused by any number of issues but very low fuel level is one, I had that once. Two cases help me remember: (1) My brother planted a side stand on his KZ1000 back in the day. When I am ready to go (say after getting gas) I replace the key, put the side stand up, pull the clutch in and hit the starter. all Side stand switch. I thought the Dec 13, 2004 · Thanks. You may need to have it replaced. One goes to the neutral light, one connection grounds the current when the box is in neutral, and one grounds to the side stand/clutch switch when the side stand is up and the clutch is pulled in. Your 1100 is a little more complicated due to the 3 wire side stand switch. The switch is not making contact internally for the stand up. It's a nice safety feature. The symptom is that the bike will start in neutral but, as soon as you try to put her into gear the engine will cut out even with the sidestand up and the May 5, 2022 · Despite 33,498 miles with my 310's side stand sensor disabled, I'm still a side stand sensor believer and wish my 310 had one able to survive my off-road riding. Jan 27, 2024 · A short video on how to delete and remove the side stand switch on a 2003 Triumph Bonneville (applies to other Triumph models). I have wiggled wires and tried everything I can but have the intermittent problem still. I also seems when the switch is playing up I get the Warning Triangle on the dash and is says "Engine!" Jun 29, 2012 · go to the little black plastic cover to the front of the engine, same side as stand, with the two little alan screws. How to install a Smartmoto de Jan 20, 2017 · I think your problem is is a faulty neutral switch not the side stand switch, it won't run with the stand down unless it knows it's in neutral. Normal function is for the motor to crank when in gear (only) with the side stand in the down position. Mar 30, 2022 · The Gen 2 sidestand switch is intended to Kill the engine whenever the side stand is Down & the transmission is put Into Gear. Smousley1995 Posts: 140 Joined: Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:22 am My Bike: Zxr 400 L 1993. Mar 27, 2020 · Yesterday, pulled up, went into neutral, put her on side stand and after ten seconds or so, bike cut out. The frame mount seems to be grinding away on opposite sides (top and bottom of the mount) causing a lot of slop in the kick stand. I still get the same result. I traced the problem to the side stand safety switch which was bent in the open position. Additional clearance around the position switch is now being machined into the side stand locking plates, which are now available at no charge on an exchange basis from the vendor by calling 815-232-4664. Nov 11, 2007 · The side stand switch can be a problem on these models. Some people choose to remove the switch to prevent the possibility of it failing and leaving you stranded. I like to start my 2000 R1100RT in my open garage ride out to the drive put down the side stand and let it warm up while I put on helmet and prep for a ride. This is like cheating the system to believe that the kick stand is up. Oct 8, 2012 · Side-stand switch: Many a K bike owner has had problems with the sidestand switch. Feb 9, 2020 · The BMW 1200 side stand switch is a 3 wire affair that runs a checksum. The dealer replaced it and cleaned up a spot in the ignition switch that they said they were getting some fluctuations in current when they ran the wiring. It also cut out many times while cruising at 65+ miles per hour. I will call it the "gray switch pad". It stalls, I pull over, put the bike in neutral, put the stand up and down and off I go. But I couldn’t leave well enough alone and tried to fine tune it to see where the sweet spot is. (See attached diagram) But since you have confirmed the bike will not roll when in gear with the clutch lever pulled, that pretty much confirms the issue is the tube nut. With the safety switch I have to start up, ride out, shut off Oct 13, 2021 · Bikes with side stands are meant to be started on them. Apr 3, 2021 · The switch is a 'depress to break contact' type so, when the sidestand is in the up position the contact is closed and, when the stand is down, it depresses the switch and breaks the contact. Majvs Thread Starter Active Member. It now runs poorly. Problem could be inside the left switch cluster as there is a switch operated by the clutch lever. Chances are the previous owner disconnected the side stand switch for a reason - most likely that it doesn't work (could just be that it's oversensitive to the stand moving slightly). Is my problem deeper in the safety circuit than just the switch? I was going to inspect the side stand switch today, but one of the screws is stripped so I can't get it off. The Gen 1 sidestand switch would allow the transmission to be put Into Gear & continue to run until the clutch lever was Released 'X' far from the handgrip. it is very important to get the alignment right when you remove it form the stand and mount otherwise it's a bit flakey . You can take the switch off the side stand. The available dongles are great, but given they likely contain a $0. Jun 30, 2010 · Your side stand switch shouldclose when the side stand is down. Have the side stand in the up position. Discussion in 'Multistrada' started by Majvs, Apr 10, 2016. [SWITCH SET, SIDE STAND | Part No: 35700-KPH-305]My full D. the switch has long enough wires attached that your able to just remove it, then jump the wires basically closing the circuit for good. If I put the side stand up it cranks fine. According to the article, the interlock system consists of: Clutch Lever switch Side Stand Switch Neutral Switch Side Stand Relay Double Diode Set for the side stand and neutral light Engine Kill Switch Mar 2, 2007 · Reading this your problems started when on a lift you over stretched the s/s spring. Sep 1, 2020 · Hi yes and still nothing I removed the side stand completely and still registered as side stand down. Luckily a lot of room on the shoulder. E bike starts if clutch is in and stand down only if in neutral bike starts with clutch out and stand down only in neutral bike starts with stand up while in gear only if clutch in Jan 28, 2006 · With the stand up, the bike will even try to start while in gear without the clutch pulled in, resulting in a lurching of the bike. join the black and red wire and tape up, leave the blue one unconnected and tape it up. The connections are clean and the switch looks undamaged. Switch was cut away and bypassed. co. Crafted from lightweight 5052 aluminum and anodized for enhanced durability, the guard blends seamlessly with your bike's aesthetics. I presumed this bodged job must have been due to a faulty/problematic side-stand switch so just removed the connector and shorted the two wires together to make a Snapped the end of the clutch lever, bent the shifter, and somehow messed up the side stand switch. Oct 5, 2007 · The revised instruction addresses the sensitivity of the side stand position switch, which has created operational problems with certain motors. I thought this new problem was the plunger (I took a guided tour, thanks to a friendly motorist, through a grass and mud filled ditch) and I worked that in and out several times this morning, but it didn't seem to help. Aug 21, 2016 · Sidestand switch Bike should start perfectly with the side stand down. It would appear not, however, it would be far better if the switch cut the engine when the side stand is fully down and allowed the engine to run (in gear) only when fully It could definitely happen. Y series Video for Motorcycle self D Touratech side stand switch protectors only protects the body from off-road debris coming from below d bike. Jan 4, 2005 · The ignition on my M600 started to cut out (obviously it did this when I was abroad) which I traced to some previous owner putting a staple between the side-stand cut-off connector. Jan 10, 2025 · Non modded bikes achieve this through the stand switch only. View attachment 913407 Jul 10, 2021 · But it may have been an issue if your bike was cutting off electrically, its part of the ignition interlock circuit and contains a relay contact for the side stand switch. I. Joined: Jun 9, 2012 Messages: 439 May 6, 2017 · Rolling onto on ramp I 40. Mar 26, 2015 · Likely PO cut the 2 wires from the old side stand switch and spliced them together with some kind of connector or tape. No bueno. The side stand switch should kick in and stall the bike only when you engage gear with the stand still down - well thats how it has worked on my two T3s. I was able to coast through the slow lane traffic and get to the shoulder safely, but once I got settled, the bike started right up again! I remembered the side stand switch problem, and I disconnected it. The next morning, cranked up again and it again died out numerous times when put in gear. make sure it is May 17, 2007 · My question is a bit different from others. I removed the wires for the side stand kill switch and routed a a wire between the two terminals. I know of a guy that got killed due to riding off with the side stand down. Disabling it should be simple. With Oct 5, 2007 · The revised instruction addresses the sensitivity of the side stand position switch, which has created operational problems with certain motors. 2kohm resistor? Seemed to work for him but a few others not-so. May 13, 2008 · These systems have been known to cause problems when hundreds of miles from nowhere. Just Google "kickstand switch" and tons of posts come up asking how to remove them or bypass them. The spring has been replaced. Apr 19, 2020 · Hence the bike cop being able to set off with the side stand partially deployed. I have yet to read about anyone on a 790 or 890 who has reported that problem. No problem for a year. 8K views 5 replies 4 participants last post by BMK9251 Dec 1, 2011 Apr 10, 2016 · 1200 Side Stand Switch Problem. Ensure the reliability of your BMW R1200 & R1250 GS and GS Adventure with the Terra Moto Side Stand Switch Guard. That is what I did for my DRZ400. Hmm . Try to start the bike to make sure it is in the right position. Apr 27, 2009 · The sidestand switch, clutch switch, and neutral safety switch all have to work for the bike to start when it should, and not start when it shouldn't. Yesterday it wouldnt start so I wiggled it around a bit and it started but then the sidestand switch quit working. If your side stand switch gets stuck in the open position, that is also a big safety issue. I had a mechanic out and he said that a resistor against the wires it would “bypass” the issue, unfortunately I can’t get hold of him to find out what one I need. Its primary function is to prevent accidents that may occur if the side stand is lowered while the rider tries to move the motorcycle. The side stand relay (photo below) is located under the seat on the left side of the CDI unit. In this picture the side stand is in the "down" position, and the pencil points to the "gray switch Jul 28, 2016 · The Breva 750 has a notoriously poor spring for the side stand. Descriptions of the problems and solutions are below. uk/partno_SSDSW016Instagram 👇👇👇https://www. So here’s the question, should I jumper the switch permanently Oct 16, 2010 · John3:16 The Road is long winding hilly flat hot cold sun stars AINT IT FUN!!!! 1st bike 125HD in 1969 250Honda Dream 750Honda 10 HD 89aspencade 1994 GL 1500 Trike Mar 28, 2010 · I know about the side stand switch killing the engine if you put it down while in gear. When up, the switch should be open. Nov 9, 2013 · -If it does, then the problem is not with the side stand switch, but rather with the Leaning of the bike (and probably) the BAS sensor. 11 posts • Page 1 of 1. I had problems with the side stand switch on my last 1150GS and had to bypass it while deep in the woods. The guy who wrote the article is PeteC. I tried using a 2. This was the 4th side stand switch I have broken while riding in different parts of the world. The two first ones was on the BMW HP2 and the two last one on DescriptionNew side stand switch👇👇👇https://www. Just undo the screw and adjust the limit switch in open circuit position . I saw no intelligence or resistor in the switch so I fail to see how the ECU can know the difference if the the wires have been May 26, 2016 · A while back my wife and I were out of town on our 88 GL1500. the clutch switch however is a two way switch [with 3 wires] it is never off [except in neutral] when the lever is pulled it operates one circuit when the lever is released it operates a different circuit. Hot side= battery side of (plug) wiring. Get it cleaned up and have a look / or get an auto electrician to check it out for you. The original question asked, "is there a problem with the side stand switch on this RT". Mar 28, 2010 · In looking at the issue I fail to see how disabling the side stand switch would cause any Running problems. Home: Engine oil change: oil change 1: Valve clearance Valve clearance 2: Side stand switch: Side stand switch1: Had a problem where the bike Mar 30, 2005 · I have been tinkering with the side stand switch arrangement. Clutch / side stand switch problems. The metal "prongs" that loop over the engine connection loosened (as in metal tensile strength) so much where it bolts to the engine/frame and the sleeve around the bolt deformed leaving the side stand at a much increased lean angle. The engine starts and away I go. Oct 19, 2023 · How to Check If Your Neutral Switch Is Bad on a Honda CB1000R. . Then tape the switch so it can't move from that position. I would pull the s/s switch as it may have been damaged, check the wires. Oct 15, 2005 · It will also be able to ride off with the side stand down & this will present a real problem the first left turn you try to make. Oct 28, 2010 · The kick stand switch is a limit switch and a lever that is connected to the kick stand. I often wonder why an electrical May 8, 2013 · I'm having some problems with the side stand. Do NOT disable the side stand switch - the safety risk is NOT worth it, even though the ignition cut-out is annoying. 19 am by crazybike After a looooooong 10 MONTHS wait, Santa came early this year and delivered my orange Triumph Tiger 800XC!!! Apr 12, 2021 · The switch prevents you from accidentally setting off with your kickstand down. cicenca jpoppgu teiqibh oczfnp wvqxfjbd ysenjuj jnuyz xvl zzpw jjtoi ktye ytpvu xitsnq qdwwz gkbynsm